Comments on: Making 3D look real http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/industry-stuff/making-3d-look-real/ Wherein Jim Tierney rants and opines about After Effects, Photoshop, and other nonsense Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:19:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: anarchyjim http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/industry-stuff/making-3d-look-real/comment-page-1/#comment-1755 anarchyjim Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:27:03 +0000 http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/?p=309#comment-1755 fwiw... I wasn't picking on Cinema 4D specifically (it's a great product). This is sort of a general problem with 3D. The default cameras in most 3D apps usually have this 'infinite sharpness' thing going. A little DOF goes a long way... but I hear ya, the opposite (extreme DOF) does show up a lot. cheers, Jim fwiw… I wasn’t picking on Cinema 4D specifically (it’s a great product). This is sort of a general problem with 3D. The default cameras in most 3D apps usually have this ‘infinite sharpness’ thing going. A little DOF goes a long way… but I hear ya, the opposite (extreme DOF) does show up a lot.

cheers,
Jim

]]> By: Gary David Bouton http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/industry-stuff/making-3d-look-real/comment-page-1/#comment-1712 Gary David Bouton Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:06:26 +0000 http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/?p=309#comment-1712 Jim— While I'd agree that a lot of very skilled modeling professionals need to enlist a director (or someone with a photographic eye) to light a scene and set up photometric camera properties if photoreality is the goal in 3D modeling, there's nothing wrong with Cinema 4D's DoF feature! Perhaps the examples in the calendar don't show the feature—MAXON is probably trying to show off other aspects of their new version. Actually, I see too [i]much[/i] use of simulated DoF in modeled scenes these days. Folks glom onto this feature and everything looks as though it was snapped at f/1.4@1/1000s.! The judicious use of an effect in modeling/rendering systems, teamed with an understanding of camera physics (Maxwell Render and modo perform this quite well), will get you where you want to go better than tossing a kitchen sink's worth of fx at a scene. I prefer a soft focus over a significant DoF effect when I render scenes. Film grain and reflex contrast, composition, camera angle, a little Dof with a tinch of edge erosion, volumetric lighting...all the ingredients in the right proportion can bring what it is all modelers want from a render—an image that provokes an emotional response. Always enjoy your take on tech, Gary Jim—

While I’d agree that a lot of very skilled modeling professionals need to enlist a director (or someone with a photographic eye) to light a scene and set up photometric camera properties if photoreality is the goal in 3D modeling, there’s nothing wrong with Cinema 4D’s DoF feature! Perhaps the examples in the calendar don’t show the feature—MAXON is probably trying to show off other aspects of their new version.
Actually, I see too [i]much[/i] use of simulated DoF in modeled scenes these days. Folks glom onto this feature and everything looks as though it was snapped at f/1.4@1/1000s.!
The judicious use of an effect in modeling/rendering systems, teamed with an understanding of camera physics (Maxwell Render and modo perform this quite well), will get you where you want to go better than tossing a kitchen sink’s worth of fx at a scene.

I prefer a soft focus over a significant DoF effect when I render scenes. Film grain and reflex contrast, composition, camera angle, a little Dof with a tinch of edge erosion, volumetric lighting…all the ingredients in the right proportion can bring what it is all modelers want from a render—an image that provokes an emotional response.

Always enjoy your take on tech,

Gary

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